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faderift: mage council ([personal profile] frmagecouncil) wrote2016-02-08 01:53 pm

EMERGENCY POST RIFT IN SKYHOLD MEETING ( BACKDATED )


WHAT: Emergency Meeting about The Rift Incident
WHEN: Two days after the Rift Incident, Guardian 2 (Backdated)
WHERE: The Vault / Sending Crystals
NOTES: Voting Required




Points to discuss:

Shards, how they work, how to learn how they work.
Demons, training against battling them on this side of the fade.
How to avoid this in the future.
Will Sina need supervision in the future to keep this from happening?
Will other Rifters that have magical inclinations need supervision as well?
Can the Council coax the Inquisition to throwing some coin into research?
And anything else that is an IC concern for the Councilors/Mages of Skyhold, list suggestions in the subthread below.

Form for Voting:



madame_de_fer: (Default)

Councilor de Fer

[personal profile] madame_de_fer 2016-02-10 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Vivienne agrees entirely with Adelaide on all points except the matter of Templar involvement. She will point out, clearly and firmly that Templars are tools, and very effective tools at that as regards fighting demons or any other magic gone out of control. Which clearly this fiasco was just that, magic gone entirely out of control in some way. "It'd be marvelous if everyone could stop thinking with their prejudices and consider the greater picture as regards the Templars." Vivienne's not about to give them one more inch of control or authority than they have rightfully earned but throwing away a beneficial asset is foolishness.

She would also put forward that Knight-Commander Norrington and his men have already demonstrated themselves to be honorable, fair, even-handed, and very aware of their duties and boundaries and she dares anyone present to say otherwise.

She's not gonna budge from the opinion that Templars are vital and should be used.
serannas: worried (ellasin selah)

[personal profile] serannas 2016-02-11 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ellana would respectfully disagree, pointing out that while Vivienne may see Templars as tools, the Templars may not see themselves that way. It all comes down to the individual person. Some see themselves as protectors of mages, but whether that means offering protection or extending full control depends entirely on who trained the Templar, and where, and what the Circle they served in was like, and if they experienced trauma with the war and now hate all mages, etc.

She will agree that Norrington and his group from Ostwick seem to have their heads on straight, but will point out that they can't be everywhere at once and the council shouldn't expect them to always be there to help them. That's why Ellana believes that any mage who wishes for Templar help with training should feel free to seek out a Templar they can trust and they can set something up individually. The New Templar Order is still in its infancy, and there's no telling how exactly the Templars wish to present themselves to others yet. The mage council certainly shouldn't snap their fingers and expect the Templars to hop to, no matter how nicely they word it. And besides, any help coming from the Templars should be voluntary to mages. There's no telling which mages were traumatized by Templars, just like there's no telling which Templars were traumatized by mages. The training should be opt in, if Templars volunteer to help.

(I know Vivienne won't budge, but Ellana will just say her peace and let others chime in, or they can move on, agreeing to disagree. She knows Vivienne has strong opinions and is very well spoken, so she won't keep arguing about this, because Viv was very clear.)